Comedian Bill Maher and clinical psychologist Dr. Jordan Peterson dove deep into the notion that wokeness is killing classic liberalism.
“The theme I’ve been trying to promulgate as much as I can the last five years, partly just in self-defense of people who say I’ve changed, I have not, is that wokeness is not something that expands on liberalism. It’s something that undoes it,” Maher told Peterson on an episode of the Club Random Podcast.
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Color blindness is a prime example, according to Maher.
“Wanting to have a color-blind society where we don’t see race is classic liberalism, certainly what Obama was going for,” according to Maher. “That’s not wokeism.
“Wokesim is race is front and center to everything.”
Peterson agreed and expanded on Maher’s idea.
“To me, that’s an extension of the insistence that someone’s primary identity is signified by their group, for whatever reason,” he said.
That idea is what “old-school” liberals were fighting against, Maher said.
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“Don’t characterize somebody by that,” the comedian said.
“So, they [the Left] inverted, and then they get mad at us for somehow, we’re conservatives now? No, we’re not conservatives. You’re just not what liberals are,” he added, referring to “woke” culture. “You’re doing a different thing, which is fine. We’re all allowed to do our thing, but you can’t do this different thing and then take the term that used to apply but doesn’t apply anymore.”